We find out from Ive that Altman is a “rare visionary.” We hear from Altman that Ive is “the deepest thinker over anyone [he’s] ever met.” We’re told by Altman that Ive’s design firm is the “densest collection of talent that I’ve ever heard of in one place and probably has ever existed in the world.

According to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, OpenAI and Jony Ive are planning a neck-worn AI device with a similar form factor to the iPod Shuffle.